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By: Alexis

Alexis — Thu, 19 Oct 2006 16:03:58 +0000

Does anyone on hear want to discuss the widening pay gap between men and women in academia. In some universities the gap is as much as 20%

By: Wid

Wid — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 17:42:41 +0000

An example:

My research project will end in two years. Should I strike until then? It would only matter when the project is undelivered at that point. Should I wait until RAE 08? That is quite a way in the future too…

I can refuse to teach ‘for free in my own time’ as I have done in the past but that will not hit till next ‘year’. Or should I refuse to not supervise or mark final year projects ‘unofficially’, well, that is next year also. Indeed, for all of these issues I get no pay and no recognition as I am not allowed to be shown as formally teaching or supervising. perhaps I should stop supporting the PhD students as an ‘unofficial supervisor’ again with no recognition. Tell me how any of these actions would hurt anyone but the students and on the very long term.

Or I could stop writing bids. Well, I could if I wanted to not have a job as without external funding I will have to go ‘elsewhere’. No-one cares where this ‘elsewhere’ is. The Unions are powerless to help and when it comes to striking they say ‘just do what you can’. They understand the terrible position we are in…

By: Wid

Wid — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 17:28:25 +0000

The consequence of ‘eating straw’ is that we still are paid poorly. I assume you refer to those that were so powerless that they were unable to have an influence on Ucea over timespans that are less than years because they do not ‘mark’ exams. Or perhaps you refer to those that are not members of a Union?

Some like me are in an awkward position as we have contract posts. This makes us very vulnerable. We almost beg to have another year’s badly paid insecure work. However, it is this situation that is keeping potential future researchers and lecturers away from the job. It also means that we are easy meat for ‘non renewal’ if we rock the boat too much. That is an awful situation. It also means that I and my research collegues will remain on the worst wages in academia.

I can only assume you do not understand what it is like for hourly and contract staff.

By: Mike

Mike — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 15:00:42 +0000

I find it amazing that such a huge payrise for such a large number of people is being compared to “eating straw”. Especially given that the “action short of a strike” has been consequence free for you. That’s some tasty straw!

By: Wid

Wid — Sun, 11 Jun 2006 10:30:32 +0000

In my opinion we are to be seen off again. The future review will find that we are underpaid AGAIN but (as someone said above) by the time the reviews take place all of the newer extra money will have been sunk into new committments. What have we really gained?

It seems that we need to take stock of our strategic and tactical methods. We are eating straw again and saying ‘thankee Sir’ for the priviledge.

By: Dr Tom

Dr Tom — Wed, 07 Jun 2006 08:25:30 +0000

Yes, it’s pretty much what ACAS suggested last week – and which AUT said would be enough to settle the dispute.

Despite the employers once again saying that 30 May represented their ‘best and final’offer, The revised offer addresses the key elements the unions had sought as follows:

i) ‘At least double figures’ over first two years

The offer will increase salary points by 10.37% between August 2006 and May 2008 (22 months).

ii) . The employers have now conceded that the review on pay will be independently chaired and will draw on independent data. Very important this in respect of point iii.

iii) The 12.5% will not be a fixed sum but the starting place for negotiations dependent of the enquiry.

v) ‘Return of monies taken through pay docking’

So as far as i can make it that’s 4 substantive areas that are improved on from the previous pay offer and the *beginnings* of *catch-up and keep-up*.

I suspect that the independent report will state that yes academic pay is too low and that one way of adressing it will be to increase top-up fees above 3000.

By: Ahuk

Ahuk — Tue, 06 Jun 2006 22:10:51 +0000

Well, my pessimism was misplaced: as per 7.28PM announcement on the Guardina website, the marking boycott ends midnight tonight with a deal of 13.1% over three years, plus independent review for the third year, plus all docked pay to be paid.

In theory it still has to be voted on but in practice the suspension of the boycott means the answer has to be “yes”.

In short, the unions got – if not everything they wanted – at least everything that they thought they had a reasonable chance of getting.

Students please note: the strike worked, and you will all graduate as planned.

By: Graduate? If you mark papers!

Graduate? If you mark papers! — Tue, 06 Jun 2006 21:15:17 +0000

It seems that lecturers believe that comparing a graduate position salary to an academic’s is incorrect. Just one point, many graduates may not be earning a salary of there is industrial action!